Tuesday, May 11, 2010

D-Day for Afghan Detainee Document Agreement

Today is the day where all parties must come to an agreement for releasing of Afghan detainee documents that Peter Milliken two weeks ago made in his ruling or the government could face "contempt of parliament" and possibly an election. Apparently the Dippers even have a motion in their back pocket.
OTTAWA -- The New Democratic Party has a contempt motion in its back pocket, but government and opposition MPs all struck fairly conciliatory tones Monday, the eve of Speaker Peter Milliken's two-week deadline to work out a deal giving MPs access to uncensored Afghan detainee documents.
The opposition care about and want to coddle those barbarians who set IEDs that kill our troops and those of our allies.
These are the kind of people the opposition want to protect? From AFP
HERAT, Afghanistan — US and Afghan forces killed 10 Taliban militants in a raid in western Afghanistan after the insurgents beheaded four guards working for the US military, the Afghan army said Sunday
Looks like those insurgents didn't care about Geneva Conventions or anything of the like. BTW I haven't heard this story at all in any of our media.
The protection of our troops and our allies are of the most importance. I am very leery of opposition getting to see sensitive documents that if leaked could very well put in jeopardy the relationship with our NATO allies not to mention everyone's safety. Look, a week ago Mr. Ziffy proved he can't be trusted with certain issues and circumstances that should be kept confidential when he was consulted on the next GG. He just had to make it a media event. How would having him or any of his MPs seeing secret sensitive files be any different? I bet it would be leaked in short order to the media and Ms. Kady would have the full documents posted on the CBC website.
For heavens sake, all this over the testimony of accusations of alleged torture. The testimony of a diplomat( Richard Colvin) whose credibility is in question when he was contradicted over and over again by credible sources like former General Rick Hillier. and the alleged shoe throwing at a detainee who are our troops quickly rescued from the shoe throwers. Up until now, there has been no credible evidence of torture or cover up etc. and this is costing us how much?
The way I see it, it's all about political games on the part of the opposition and the media to make the government look bad on the lives of our brave men and women in uniform. I'm with the government protecting our troops and our allies.
Election if need be. The opposition parties would pay for it at the polls, I'm sure of it. Now the opposition wants more time. Funny isn't it now, that it's the opposition anxious for extension and not the government. You would normally think it would be the government looking buy more time. Me thinks they're trying to avoid facing the electorate.


  1. Very good post, thank you for bringing it out again.... And, there were more than just former General Rick Hillier who put into question the testimony of Colville. Recently there is Gavin Buchan, Canada’s Political Director for the Kandahar Provincial Reconstruction Team in Afghanistan - and -
    Major-General Timothy Grant.
    Adrian McNair and Ezra Levant right similar opinions, as do you, and I have joined in on this as well.
    Why does the media continue to ignore all leads...we know why..
    Solid evidence is being ignored because the Liberals failed, as evidenced by a journalist no less, Joel Denis Bellanvance of LaPresse -
    "The old liberal government was warned by Canadian diplomats stationed in Kabul, in 2003, 2004 and 2005, that torture was a current practice in Afghan prisons.

    In spite of these warnings, the Martin government decided to sign an agreement with the Karzaï government, in December 2005, to deliver to the Afghan authorities all the prisoners captured by the Canadian soldiers, reveal documents of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs obtained by the LaPresse.

    Between 2002 and 2005, Canada gave the Americans the Afghan prisoners suspected of having bonds with the Taliban. But Ottawa decided to negotiate a prisoner transfer agreement with Afghan authorities, following the controversy caused by ill treatment of prisoners neld by the US at Guantánamo,Cuba, and the tortures inflicted on prisoners by American soldiers at Abu Ghraib, Iraq.

    The Canadian soldiers started to transfer prisoners to the Afghan authorities in December, 2005. The documents obtained by LaPresse are annual reports prepared by Canadian diplomats. They paint a general picture of the situation in Afghanistan, in particular the progress recorded on human rights and in the creation of democratic institutions…

    posted by Ottawa Watch @ 10:50 AM "

  2. I fully expect that the Speaker is just going to extend the deadline. So you may have to re-post this in another two weeks.

  3. I fully expect that the Speaker is just going to extend the deadline. So you may have to re-post this in another two weeks.

    Good point,Iceman. I just may have to. I just don't trust the opposition to keep secrets.

  4. The Afghanistan Committee is a complete failure. If they were subject to normal performance reviews, they would all be fired and replaced. Not once did they visit Afghanistan and what advice have they provided in service to their country and Her Majesty's soldiers? They shirk their greater responsibility to serve their own parochial political agenda. Disgusting.

  5. Anonymous said...

    The Afghanistan Committee is a complete failure.

    I fully agree. They should be discussing the well being of our troops and what should be the next step in our mission in Afghanistan.

  6. I don't like the way the CPC has played this issue at all. Why not come clean 100%. So we handed the prisoners over to the Afghans and they tortured some of them? Okay, this is war, not our country, we are not running affairs. Also, the LIBRANOS made this agreement that we had to follow due to their hatred of the US, who more than likely would not have tortured anybody. What is the scandal here anyways? I guess the liberals want to spin this as deliberate actions on the part of the government and somehow topple us. From where I sit only Quebec gives a shit about the prisoners anyways.. but now we have liberal problems there don't we? (real conservative)

  7. http://www.strategicpublishinggroup.com/title/SavingGraceAtGuantanamoBay.html

    Abraham Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus before the Civil War even started. He was challenged on his authority to do so, and for the fact that Congress had not declaired war yet. He won on both counts. Since he was Commander in Chief, he was free to act in the interest of the country over the interest of the Constitution. The Supreme Court ruled that a state of war can and did exist even though there was no official declaration of war, envoking Lincoln's power and duty as Commander in Chief. Lincoln explained it in terms of a surgeon cutting off a limb to save the body. No one kills the body to save the limb. Of course, in this analogy, the limb is the Constitution, and the body is the country. These terrorists are entitled to absolutely nothing. They chose to be where they were, at the time they were there, and doing what they were doing. No one forced them to pick up arms against the United States and her allies and ignore the Law of Land Warfare (Geneva Conventions), and now there should be a price to pay.


  8. Wrong to judge religious right

    Interview reveals true intolerance

    Charles Lewis, National Post
    Published: Wednesday, May 12, 2010

    By now I should be used to this particular view of the world: It’s one in which only bad people, fanatics and crazies disagree with Canadian values, whatever those are. It is a world of “we” versus “them.” And we all know who “we” are and we certainly know “them.”

    (lewis goes on to say)

    Ms. McDonald believes there is a dangerous rise in the religious right in this country and most good Canadians are sleepwalking into a political nightmare, much like she witnessed in the United States under Ronald Reagan.

    She warned of a Canada rife with divisiveness, as we see today in the United States, if we continue down this scary right fork in the road.

    Read on:

  9. Omar Khadr arrested when he was fifteen while the liberal party was in government.
    The media once in a while(blue moon) mentioned his name- nothing serious no wailing or garnishing of teeth no hateful comments from them either.
    All those years Omar remained GITMO not a sound nor a murmur regularly on his supposed abuse. Not until SURPRISE:
    HARPER GOVERNMENT came in power then low and behold FREEDOM FOR OMAR STARTED"

    Free little boy OMAR you conservatives, you had no right to leave Omar in the USA-get this- since 2001- when Chretien was in power.
    It never fails that others are to be blamed for the liberals own crimes(I say.

    Like always the national media refuse to tell you this:

    Senior Khadr found Canada boring: book
    New Biography; Extremist did not stay long in 'dirty swamp'

    Stewart Bell, National Post
    Published: Wednesday, February 06, 2008

    "After much hesitation he [Khadr] decided to go to Canada, the country of money and business, and there he roamed the alleys of false civilization," it says,

    (here is another piece that will get you)

    "And after staying a long time, the philanthropist went back to Canada, not to live in its false good life, but to collect contributions for the [refugees] and to help the Afghan jihad. He didn't stay in this dirty swamp for long."

    Read more:

    frmgrl, Ignatieff said that Canada was 'disgusting' and strange, not Ignatieff nor any of the Khadr family were ever tackle on their omments.

    Now you know why terrorist groups like the opposition parties because they all have the brain funchion on canada.
    Why do you think that the opposition parties went against "the anti-terrorist act bill"

  10. Thanks Jen for both those links. The religious right are crazies,intolerant etc.,yup,the cultural war is on. I think Lewis is right on. Ms. McDonald and those like her are the dangerous ones I'm afraid.
    Yeah, I remember when Chretien rescued Omar's dad from prison in Pakistan. I do think the opposition has more sympathy for terrorists than keeping Canadians safe. Sad!

  11. Enjoyed your blog and your focus on protecting our troops. My daughter's fiance died in Iraq, and I know how important it is to encourage and support those who serve. You can help cover our troops with prayer by posting this prayer request to your blog's side panel. I'm hoping that those who serve will be encouragd by our prayers.


    May the Lord bless each and every man and woman who serves us in the military.
    Many Blessings!
    A Mom

  12. Sorry to hear of your daughter's loss. God Bless you. Yes,the men and women in uniform should always be in our hearts and prayers. They do a magnificent job at keep us all safe while putting their lives on the line.


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